boost accessories helpp

[el abusador]

map sensor- i heard stock only good for 8 psi is that true if so wat do i need to run 15 psi

ecu- chipped ecu for tune.?
s200 good enough ?
diffrence between s200 n s300 besides boost by gear

what electronics do i need beside wideband. new to this boost thing but summers right there and im tired of going to sleep looking at my turbo in my room

[Sk8eR_PR]

Stock motor or built motor?
A motor with stock internals (Acura/Honda) can boost up to 10 PSI with a very professional and fine tune but I don't recommend going over 7-8 PSI's.

If you are going over 10 PSI's it's because you have some good upgrades in your motor internals.

If your motor internals are stock and you want to stay in the safe side then you can use the stock map sensor which is good for 7-8 PSI's but I'm not sure what's the maximum you can boost with a stock map sensor. Maybe 10 PSI's or maybe 7, I don't know...


MAP Sensor
Anyway a 3 BAR map sensor it's very cheap on eBay ($15) and you can boost over 20 PSI's with 3 BAR map sensors. And it's also good for 1 to 20 PSI's if you want to boost 15 PSI's


Chipped ECU
Yes chipped ECU it's a must but you don't need to spend a fortune in a Hondata. A regular chipped P28 ECU will do the job with a Chrome tune. Chrome is a tuning software used to tune cars. It's very cheap and reliable for tuning stock internals motors.


S200 or S300?
I don't know any differences between this two but the only reason I will spend my money in a Hondata it will be because I'm building a monster ALL MOTOR Honda or Acura motor.

http://honda-tech.com/showpost.php?p=42958154&postcount=2

http://www.hondata.com/help/smanager/index.html?differencesbetweenthes100.htm

Electronics beside wideband?
Actually you don't need a wideband. This is something used to tune and the tuner should have this tool at the time of tuning your car.

However in my case I want to install a wideband just to make sure the fuel mixture it's always the same and because I'm fancy and I like an extra gauge.

But installing a wideband just because you are going turbo it's not totally necessary. It is necessary for tuning but the tuner can install one before tuning and then remove it when done.


Other electronics?
Boost controller: This can be manual controller or you can even skip installing one and let the wastegate spring do the job.

Oil pressure gauge: Can be electronic but in my case I prefer mechanic because it tells you the right and real oil PSI's. In a electronic one I'm afraid it tells me the wrong amount of pressure. But this is just me because I never heard of a electronic oil pressure gauge giving false readings.

Boost pressure gauge: I think there are electronic boost gauges but once again I prefer the mechanic ones.

So the bottom line is: You don't need any type of electronics for boost. It can be all mechanic.

Expectations of boosting by 2014 summer?
And I don't want to disappoint you but if you're asking this type of questions that means you need to read and learn a lot to educate yourself very well and that could take you weeks if not months to understand all you need to know to get your car boosting safely and done the right way. But it all depends on how much you read, learn and understand. In my case it took me over a year of reading and learning to know the little I know today.

I wish you to have your car boosting for this summer. Just don't do anything desperate. If you can't get it boosting for this summer it will also boost in winter too.

[el abusador]

broooo good looks you put me on............. i have a full kit.. thats why im asking cus i wanted to see how full of a kit i got..... u know about turbos i dont know how to tune ofcourse or wats realy required to keep it reliable.. but ive heard of people boosting 15 psi on a stock ls with just head studs i got studs rod bolts and a nice zero mile ls.. i think the 15 psi wouldent be to much as long as i dont over rev? im assuming ..i just want 300 h.p if i can get that at 8-10 psi then w.e but 300 h.p is a must lmaoo

thanks again broo... r.t

[jealous1shateric]

I had a ls with 15psi all stock greedy t3/t4 small snail shifting at 5k back in the days and I never had an issue. No tune. No fancy electronics.

[Sk8eR_PR]

Nice man! I can't give you any information on how much PSI you can boost with the internals you have in your motor because I don't know shit about it.

All I know is if I want to boost more than 10 PSI's I will be installing forged rods, pistons, head studs etc etc.

You can install everything and tell the tuner what's inside your motor and he will let you know what's the max he can get out of the motor. After you know the max you can get out of the motor I recommend staying 3 to 5 PSI's under there.

Example if the tuner tells you the motor is good for 15 PSI's then tell him to tune it for 10 to 12 PSI's. Don't max out the motor capabilities. But this is just me, the way I think. Because most of the people will go with the maximum PSI's their motors can hold and their motor can last a lot of time. There are a lot of variables like in example the way you drive and how much you will be boosting that motor without letting it rest after a few pulls.

You know what I mean? If you beat on the motor and it is turbo you will see how the motor and car will start to ask for parts. But in some cases people beat the shit out of their motors and their motors remain strong without any kind of problems.

As of how many HP you looking for there's no way in life to tell how many HP your motor will do per each PSI's of boost. This is because I can have the same car and motor as you with all the same parts and your motor can do 300 WHP while mine does 260 WHP.

So this about the WHP it's each motor behaviour and there's no way to tell how much HP you will make until you get it to tune.

However basic numers are 10 HP per each PSI of boost. This means if your stock LS has 150 HP and you want to boost 10 PSI's then you should expect around 240-250 HP. But it depends on all motors, it could be 260 HP or it could be 230 HP.

So yes if you are looking for 300 HP and your stock motor has 150 HP then 15 PSI's of boost will get you in the 280-300 HP league.

You can PM me if you have any other questions. Worst I can tell you is "I don't know, you will have to ask somebody else".

Good luck friend!

[Sk8eR_PR]

I had a ls with 15psi all stock greedy t3/t4 small snail shifting at 5k back in the days and I never had an issue. No tune. No fancy electronics.

In my case I wont be able to resist going over 5,000 RPM's and I will end up blowing that motor just like I did with my previous CRX LS.

I will never recommend anyone to go over 3,000 RPM's in a turbo motor until it gets tuned.

But people like jealous1shateric can control their foot in the gas pedal. I think this is extremely hard to control for me.

[bmxican783]

I had a ls with 15psi all stock greedy t3/t4 small snail shifting at 5k back in the days and I never had an issue. No tune. No fancy electronics.

I've got about 7 psi running through my f22 ej1 shifting at 5000 complete beast

[superchargedk20]

Alot of good info from sk8. But I would get a wideband boost and oil pressure.
Knowing that fuel mixture is vital. I remember 1 time a fuel line of mine had a tiny slit. At wot I was running lean. The wideband helped save my motor.
Get a boost gauge. It could come in handy to help with boost creep or a vacuum leak. Let's say ur tuned for 12 psi. But ur creeping to 15 or 16 psi. U might be in a danger zone and won't even know it. Knowing what ur psi is all the time could be vital 1 day.
Oil pressure speaks for itself. I don't need to go into detail about that

[LS/Vtec]

It all depends on the size of the turbo as well. 10psi on a 35r will produce a lot more power then 10 psi on a little 50 trim.