rip paul walker

[sikauto1]

They never said they were doing tripple digit speed. Even if they were going 60 mph in a car like that you hit a pole sideways you are bound to do some serious damage. There have been plenty of other accidents at slower speeds that have been fatal to. Did it have a major role in the accident yes no doubt about it. Regardless of the matter all we know is that he was a great caring person who in my opinion didnt deserve to go especially after all the help he was giving.

[testify]

actually you can definitely be killed going 45mph especially if you slide sideways into a pole or a tree like they did.

That is for sure. A lot of people don't realize how little it takes to cut a car in two pieces. All it takes is a small hit at the right pressure point.

However, at 45mph, on a straight, flat road, I think it would be unlikely that the car would go sideways into a pole. Mechanical failure or not.

They never said they were doing tripple digit speed. Even if they were going 60 mph in a car like that you hit a pole sideways you are bound to do some serious damage. There have been plenty of other accidents at slower speeds that have been fatal to. Did it have a major role in the accident yes no doubt about it. Regardless of the matter all we know is that he was a great caring person who in my opinion didnt deserve to go especially after all the help he was giving.

The Carrera GT has an extremely strong, one piece, tub that the occupants sit inside of. It is designed to take a serious hit. My familiarity with high speed impacts, as well as my familiarity with similar modern 'race tub' type vehicles, and the fact that it is in two pieces, leave no doubt in my mind how fast the car had to be travelling.

Really my point is simple. There are a lot of people who try to justify their reckless driving. Not just on this forum, but all over the country and the world. They'll blame the car, mechanical failure, etc. But the blame can only fall one place, the operator.

Again, I'm just glad they didn't kill any innocent people outside the car, and hopefully a few will see this, wise up, and come join the non-stupid people at our safe, legal, sanctioned driving events.

[sikauto1]

Accidents can happen anywhere. Just because you do it on a track doesnt mean that it wont happen. Less likely but still can. Theres always that one person that makes that one mistake or tries to show off.

[testify]

Accidents can happen anywhere. Just because you do it on a track doesnt mean that it wont happen. Less likely but still can. Theres always that one person that makes that one mistake or tries to show off.

Wrong again.

Tracks are a controlled environment.

Tracks are not lined with fixed objects that can decelerate a car instantly like light poles and trees do.

Tracks do not allow for head on collisions because everyone travels the same direction.

Tracks do not have innocent people at every turn.

The bottom line is that impacts on a track are more often less severe than accidents of a similar nature on the street.



The street is an uncontrollable environment.

It has all of the aforementioned things plus the element of the unknown.

Don't be selfish. Keep it off the street. Don't put the public at risk.

[sikauto1]

So is everything made of rubber then? Or cant you still flip your car over if you take a turn to quick or have a blow out and hit a wall anything? Or any kind of accidents? We have all seen videos of cars going over walls and camera men getting hit by cars, people flipping them over or going into a wall. Pros or not.

[testify]

So is everything made of rubber then? Or cant you still flip your car over if you take a turn to quick or have a blow out and hit a wall anything? Or any kind of accidents? We have all seen videos of cars going over walls and camera men getting hit by cars, people flipping them over or going into a wall. Pros or not.

Yes, that happens.

Those are what we call 'freak accidents' in the sport because they are so rare.

And yes, there are tire walls and guard rails that are set up to 'deflect' an impact at every possible point on a track. Set up so that there is no point where your car will instantly decelerate. This is to allow the car to decelerate gradually and lessen g-forces.

I think we are a little too far apart here in our conceptual knowledge of the physics and forces involved in an impact.

Furthermore, everyone who sets foot on that track accepts the risk because you know it's there.

The 10 year old kid that is crossing the road before he gets hit by the street racing Civic did not accept that risk.

[iRockEK]

This guy Testify needs to go kick rocks.

[jdm94hatch]

Wrong again.

Tracks are a controlled environment.

Tracks are not lined with fixed objects that can decelerate a car instantly like light poles and trees do.

Tracks do not allow for head on collisions because everyone travels the same direction.

Tracks do not have innocent people at every turn.

The bottom line is that impacts on a track are more often less severe than accidents of a similar nature on the street.



The street is an uncontrollable environment.

It has all of the aforementioned things plus the element of the unknown.

Don't be selfish. Keep it off the street. Don't put the public at risk.

Guard rails and walls don't do shit. I've seen cars at tracks go right over a guard rail or wall... Accidents happen everywhere no matter if ur on track or street...

[jdm94hatch]

Funny thing about this. I bet half these ppl didn't even no about Paul walker b4 the f&f...everybody sad that Brian o Connor died not Paul walker.... It does suck he's gone cuz he was a very good actor and a car enthusiasts

[superchargedk20]

Funny thing about this. I bet half these ppl didn't even no about Paul walker b4 the f&f...everybody sad that Brian o Connor died not Paul walker.... It does suck he's gone cuz he was a very good actor and a car enthusiasts

I hope people know about his other movies. Caus they are pretty good. Running scared is still my favorite Paul walker movie outside ff

[injen78]

Wrong again.
Tracks are not lined with fixed objects that can decelerate a car instantly like light poles and trees do.

tracks have concrete walls, light poles, timing boards, flagstands, and fans

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BW39WzhcyV8

Tracks do not have innocent people at every turn.

dont even give me that shit.im a racer(circle track to be exact), nascar fan, and car enthusiast..and your going to tell people on this forum that there are not innocent people at racetracks that have not been hit by debris, cars, and safety equipment while sitting in the stands??

here are 4 instances where innocent people were hurt in the stands
1- kyle larson daytona 2013- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkcdcbyoDFw
2-carl edwards talladega 2009- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nlytg1bYI0
3-bobby allison talladega 1987- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wySxP-tWZQU
4-unknown information- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=liRgB6tBYEs

here are 3 instances where racers died from hitting fixed objects
1-dale earnhardt daytona 2001- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5v3pFco6xA
2-ayrton senna san marino 1994- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tpp7OCngXQM
3-scott kalitta englishtown 2008- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oX5eYmnIHyw

the walls your refering to that allow the car to declerate and have a softer impact, arent always safer barriers, tire walls, or guard rails. alot of the time the walls are concrete with rebar inside and those do not give.

[2kCivicEx]

I think people are missing the point here...

Race tracks are a controlled environment designed for speeding. They have safety features implemented into the track and take precautions to limit serious injuries and casualties. Most race cars on the track have extra safety features to protect drivers incase of an accident because accidents DO happen and nothing is perfect. Life has risks involved in almost everything. We do what we can to limit those risks. The only other alternative would be to simply stop racing all together and we can all agree thats not going to happen.

Public roads are designed for everyday commuting. That simple. Laws are implemented in an attempt to protect the safety of the general public but those laws get broken on a daily basis. Speeding, wreckless driving, DUIs, texting and driving, etc are all common issues that take lives everyday. The street is a much more dangerous place than the track.

Like most of us here, I admired and respected Paul Walker and am saddened by his tragic death. But to say that they were driving at a low rate of speed or in a safe manner is simply denial. We all saw the pics of the crash and that amount of damage usually comes with excessive speed. That car belonged on a track.

Also, tragedies at the track aren't considered to be the norm. They do occur once in a while but the amount of deaths and injuries on everyday roads far outweigh the accidents that occur on the track.

[jealous1shateric]

Bump

[JDM_DC5]

OK, can we stop the pissing match of who knows more about what? Whether speed WAS a factor, or whether speed WASNT a factor, RIP to Roger and Paul, two men who had there lifes cut short. I'll be the first to admit I'm not much into the street racing scene but I'd be a liar to say I never get on it! ANY person into cars to that extent does... it's in our blood!

If you have anything negative to say please keep it to your self.

[jrkingz]

I hope people know about his other movies. Caus they are pretty good. Running scared is still my favorite Paul walker movie outside ff

x2 even though it didn't do great at the box office running scared was a great picture.