Do you believe in the Illuminati?

[MR2Froto]

I'm amazed at how many people now/talk about it now from a few years back....guess wtc opened alot of peoples eyes....

https://www.abovetopsecret.com

Also youtube the american dream....youll find out alot of fucked up shit.

[DC2kid21]

I'm amazed at how many people now/talk about it now from a few years back....guess wtc opened alot of peoples eyes....

https://www.abovetopsecret.com

Also youtube the american dream....youll find out alot of fucked up shit.

abovetopsecret.com is a good site, I just checked it out....I saw the video on putting chips in vaccines...thats scary. I def won't be getting any vaccine shots lol, post the american dream link tho

[BB DC294 NHCT]

I was told that the Illuminati are rich people that think their above god like Jay-Z. Kanye West said he sold his soul to the devil in a freestyle, which I don't get... The are people that believe in that, i don't know what to think of it.

[DC2kid21]

I was told that the Illuminati are rich people that think their above god like Jay-Z. Kanye West said he sold his soul to the devil in a freestyle, which I don't get... The are people that believe in that, i don't know what to think of it.

Well to break it down briefly...the Illuminati are the 12 richest familys in the world...they literally own the world. They own the biggest companies in all industries and any that they don't they will soon acquire. They entered into Iraq and Afganistan to take control of the oil industry. Osama was also a CIA agent and was he was just someone to point the finger at so we could go and basically steal they're resources. The Illuminati are the ones are the very top...they are the ones who pick presidents, cause wars and own the federal reserve. They print money and loan to the U.S government at an interest rate, hense their ability to acquire companies and run the worlds finance. Jay-z and Kanye are just puppets used by the Illuminati to create social change. For instance...these rappers like many talk about money, sex and drugs. Those who are weak minded, turn to these figures as their source for information on how to live aspects of their life. And when someone as famous as Jay-Z and Kanye talk about loving money, doing drugs and having sex, it becomes a norm in our society. Which is exactly what the people above them, The Illuminati want...they want us to live a life thats the opposite of what God wants for us. The Illuminati are controlled by Satan and want us to believe they don't exist and since they own CBS,NBS,ABC etc...they control how much we hear about them. EVERYONE whos signed to a record label has made a deal with the devil and are involved in becoming tools for the Illuminati, they'll lie and deny it but they clearly show free mason and Illuminati symbolism in they're lyrics. Just listen some of their songs...90% of rappers mention their story of how they sold their soul to the devil. The illuminati LOVES symbolism. They love putting it in your face that they exist through symbolism. But if we don't understand the symbols such as the triangles, the all seeing eye and a bunch of other stuff then were pretty much clueless.

[MR2Froto]

The american dream

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGk5ioEXlIM&sns=em <- all you need to know about the fed

[kbrown!]

It's a bunch of bullshit. You're saying they own bill gates too? How about the creator of Facebook? You really think they have something to do with it? There's no way there are 12 rich families out there who run the world. It's just nit how it works. Osama was not a CIA agent he was a terrorist. Give me solid proof of this existing and I'd have a different view. People who listen to country music don't listen to jay-z trust me you guys are complete idiots for pretending to be educated about the devil running the world.

[MR2Froto]

I don't know about the whole selling the soul to the devil and illuminati being the devil talk....

There's no denying secret societies exist, and the illuminati being a part of it.

As far as I'm concerned with Jay-Z, and his whole throwing secret society signs up in his video "run this town", that was him being a moron, and trying to stir shit up to get attention and more views. The internet is a wonderful tool to learn about stuff like this, if you do your reasearch unbiased, and from all angles....the problem is it's full of morons who believe anything, and the people who feed the bullshit to them.

Personaly, my thoughts are the Federal Reserve runs shit. I'll start off with something simple as the dollar bill. Pyramid with the all seeing eye? That's a freemason symbol. "E pluribus unum " as seen on the bill means "Out of many, one" can easily be assumed to mean a new world order, and according to many researchers is on the "illuminati agenda". Do you know how banks work? A bank does something called "fractional reserve banking" with loans, I think they need to cover 10% in their reserve of whatever loan is being taken out. Technically they are loaning anyones money out that's in there. Mind you, a bank is only supposed to have in gold value to back up what they have for cash, i.e. fort knox. Do you really think this is true today? I doubt the banks can back up 10% of what they have out there cash wise in gold. They're trying to buy back gold.

Another wonderful thing you may notice is your dollar bill isn't really a dollar bill. It's just a feral reserve note. That's it. We accept it as currency, but it's worthless (I'll get into that later).

The federal reserve backs both sides of every war....let's go back to the english/french war...A messenger runs back to england, telling them Napoleon won. The english sell their stocks...at that point they were selling everything they could...even the money was considered worthless...Now we all know (if we payed attention in school) the english won. Who was the messenger? Someone from the fed, of course. They waited till stocks plummeted and bought england. Obviously, those with money have power, especially back in those days.

Still don't believe me?

Benjamin Franklin was quoted saying something about as long as there was a federal reserve, our country would be doomed.

Thomas Jefferson successfully shut down the federal reserve. He was also quoted:"

"I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties
than standing armies. Already they have raised up a moneyed aristocracy
that has set the government at defiance. The issuing power of money
should be taken away from the banks and restored to the people to whom
it properly belongs."

Mind you he had a few assasination attemps on him.

Or, maybe the most recent and most disputed assassination, John F Kennedy. Ironically another who shut down the reserve. The details and evidence I have for that are best for another day.

As far as the issue with musicians being apart of this great big scheme, it's debatable.

I'll update later, I'm tired.

[lowlife9]

fuk yeah im wearing my tin foil hat rite now.

[jd1]

To MR2Froto:
Cant believe you took your time to write all that (unless you copy & paste & edit, lol) but i cant believe i sat here and read all that and plus the whole thread, lol. But to tell you the truth i dont believe in this.

[MR2Froto]

No need for copy and paste or editing...I type naturally, combine that with beer (loss of time) and a passion for the study....

Anyways, I respect anyone's opinion on the subject, that's what makes these type of debates great. Even if you don't believe, I'm pretty sure it's an interesting read for those more close minded on the subject.

[jd1]

Yes, yes it is, lol.

[shooktd]

It's a bunch of bullshit. You're saying they own bill gates too? How about the creator of Facebook? You really think they have something to do with it? There's no way there are 12 rich families out there who run the world. It's just nit how it works. Osama was not a CIA agent he was a terrorist. Give me solid proof of this existing and I'd have a different view. People who listen to country music don't listen to jay-z trust me you guys are complete idiots for pretending to be educated about the devil running the world.

i beleive in hell and heaven but my boy kbrown is right.

im sure there's some evil in the media but not enough to turn everyone into zombies, i doubt Micheal Jackson was poisoned and i doubt tupac was killed by the Illuminati either.

[MR2Froto]

^lol

I wouldn't go to that extent myself. Media? Definately a distraction. If americans spent the same amount of time discussing real life issues as opposed to celebrities in sports, we'd see an incredible change (for the better?). MJ..havent hear that one. Tupac? I've heard so many theories...the only one I can see truth to is an informant from some agency was in with him after he got shot the first time and told him biggie did it to start a feud....

[DC2kid21]

No need for copy and paste or editing...I type naturally, combine that with beer (loss of time) and a passion for the study....

Anyways, I respect anyone's opinion on the subject, that's what makes these type of debates great. Even if you don't believe, I'm pretty sure it's an interesting read for those more close minded on the subject.

x2....to each their own...there is just a lot that happens that we're blind to

[ej1 sleeper]

I belive in the zombie apocalypse

x2