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  • #16
    Originally posted by jdmeg6 View Post
    my motor is stock only thing it had was a ecu
    He got da same shyt everything else is stock

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    • #17
      Originally posted by lsv4deg View Post
      bump...i wanted to know the same schit
      Yea im not doin it I got a feelin if I do it won't be good like I want it

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      • #18
        To answer your original question, No dont put a stock LS block mated with a stock GSR head, its pointless in my opinion. An LS/V is only worth it if you're going to put some work, time, and a decent amount of $$ into it. If your looking to build an LS/V do it right the first time. and it doesnt have to be expensive to go fast. Here's a pretty decent build list, that wont put too much stress in your pockets...

        Head:
        gsr head
        itr cams
        blox intake mani or you can keep your stock GSR to save money
        get a Hytech Rep header on Ebay

        BLock:
        ITR RS Machine Pistons 81mm
        APR Rod Bolts
        GE LS/V Conversion Kit
        itr water pump/oil pump/timing belt
        arp headstuds

        Thats pretty vague but you get the idea, but you can keep the stock LS crank, and rods, just make sure you use the rod bolts. Thats all you pretty much need, obviously there are other factors i know i left out like ecu, tranny and other small engine necessities (intake etc).
        Now you can choose to build an LS all motor, but i always go against that unless you do some headwork, and throw some decent cams in there. a decent LS build that would scrape a few cars out here would go as follow:

        Head:
        Valve job, P&P
        Crower valvtrain (valves, springs) keep oem retainers
        crower 403 cams
        blox intake mani (or something similar)
        port LS throttle body
        decent header

        Block:
        p30 pistons
        arp rod bolts
        arp headstuds

        again vague, but will net you some decent power without the use of vtec. But with any build make sure you tune the car!..i cant stress how important it is to tune a car after an engine build. Good luck, and hit me up if anything!
        Last edited by it0sls203; 09-15-2009, 10:35 PM.

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        • #19
          yea deff tunin the car motor gives u all the power that that 4 cylinder can put out i heard that ls run pretty hard wit a simple tune...

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          • #20
            Originally posted by sir_ef9 View Post
            yea deff tunin the car motor gives u all the power that that 4 cylinder can put out i heard that ls run pretty hard wit a simple tune...
            Yea I heard da same shyt I might jus do dat its easier and better 4 me

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            • #21
              kain just do an ls turbo papa! tony ho status!

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              • #22
                xxxx2^^^^dont kno who tony ho is but i agree wit him deff do that ls turbos are grimey and CHEAP

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by CTgoldhatch View Post
                  so many people have Ls/Vtec man built the LS no one really goes that way..
                  theres a reason for that. an ls/vtec will make 50-60 more hp at the same boost level as a straight ls motor.

                  as long as the block is healthy and u dont rev it past 8200rpms and use a b vtec oil pump your fine.

                  tons and tons of people run stock block ls and b20 vtecs without issues. you just need to know the limitations of the setup.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by meat View Post
                    theres a reason for that. an ls/vtec will make 50-60 more hp at the same boost level as a straight ls motor.

                    as long as the block is healthy and u dont rev it past 8200rpms and use a b vtec oil pump your fine.

                    tons and tons of people run stock block ls and b20 vtecs without issues. you just need to know the limitations of the setup.

                    idk man i really dont agree wit that i think buildin a ls/vtec is a waist of time in my book ls/vtecs are for ppl who got the time and know how to fuk wit em i wouldnt trust a ls vtec 2 dd ... and im petty sure that it isnt just the oil pump that fuks u over on a ls/vtec its the heavy ass crankshaft thats why i seen them throwing rods..oil pressure heavy crank that cant handle the high rpms ...nd just asking why is 8200 rpms the limit pretty sure a ls revs all the why to like 6800 or 7200 never owned a ls so i wouldnt know

                    im my opnion wit the money your waisting makin a ls/vtec reliable you could by a gsr or b16... to me thats more important i wanna be fast and still kno that after i race weather i win or lose my car will be taking me home ...

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by sir_ef9 View Post
                      idk man i really dont agree wit that i think buildin a ls/vtec is a waist of time in my book ls/vtecs are for ppl who got the time and know how to fuk wit em i wouldnt trust a ls vtec 2 dd ... and im petty sure that it isnt just the oil pump that fuks u over on a ls/vtec its the heavy ass crankshaft thats why i seen them throwing rods..oil pressure heavy crank that cant handle the high rpms ...nd just asking why is 8200 rpms the limit pretty sure a ls revs all the why to like 6800 or 7200 never owned a ls so i wouldnt know

                      im my opnion wit the money your waisting makin a ls/vtec reliable you could by a gsr or b16... to me thats more important i wanna be fast and still kno that after i race weather i win or lose my car will be taking me home ...
                      b4 i rebuilt my LSV i abused it for about a year straight abuse and never had a prob with it the only prob i came to on the setup was one with my MSD setup and a camcap leak witch i fixed no prob. i tore my motor apart because i wanted to change the ls pistons and do a cople more things to it all the bearings where still mint no signs of stress or cracking and i always revvv the motor to 9k and it was my DD taking GSR all day. LSV is reliable but you gotta know what you doing when you built one.
                      S3-R
                      Stage3-Racing

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                      • #26
                        exactly done right your cool. i put 700m miles a week on my boosted ls/vtec. no issues.

                        and i have my gsr motor, sitting in the garage. meh

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                        • #27
                          meat-so that still doesnt answer my question why is 8200 rpms just right is a fact or is that just your personal opinion

                          changy87-i agree wit you ls/vtec are reliable when u BUILD 1 right but the man dont have time 2 be buildin a motor..

                          let me ask u both this ? if u had a choice money wasnt a issue den what would u choose ls/v or gsr /b16?

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                          • #28
                            Well if money wasn't the issues I think we will all be doing g23 swaps or k20 swaps lol but naw on a serious note out of the b series ill go with the gsr block and b16 head with R internals.
                            S3-R
                            Stage3-Racing

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by chagy87 View Post
                              Well if money wasn't the issues I think we will all be doing g23 swaps or k20 swaps lol but naw on a serious note out of the b series ill go with the gsr block and b16 head with R internals.
                              xxx2 i honestly think ls/v is a short term answer to a long term problem i have never owned a ls in my life and i dont think there is a point in having one but if i was ever giving a ls for my car it would not be lsv it would deff be non-vtec turbo.. my 0.2

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                              • #30
                                Yea everyone has there own opinion on them I guess
                                S3-R
                                Stage3-Racing

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