Hybrid Theory (d16 content)

[b20acteg]

ok so, im a lil noob to the honda game. more like brett favre of honda lol. had an old DA back in around '03. been out the game since. so anyway i got an EK coupe now n im lookin to do a lil upgrade. ive read up on some swaps n what not but im a believer of building what you got. so shes a 96 non v-tec. im lookin into a stock head (y7?) with a v-tec block (y8?) and an si tranny. how would this lil equation work out performance wise? and secondly what whould i need to a successfull build?...aside from the obvious (ex., block, head, tranny) thanks in advance

-jake

[eginsnaityjdm]

just out of curiousity why would you want the non vtec head on the vtec block? i think you should do the vtec head on the non vtec block (mini me) with the si tranny, that would be a better upgrade unless theres a reason why you like the non vtec over vtec..

[CTgoldhatch]

non vtec is nice but the y8 has oiling issues and like to spin berings i would built the y7. or swap out the bottom end for a better one. like a z6 or maybe even a a6 but there will be work to be done if you go that way

[meat]

y8 block is fone as long as you shim and port the oil pump. i was making 293whp on a built y8 motor in my 94 hatch in 03.

i would use the ex/si tranny and a full d16z6 motor with a obd2-1 convo harness and a obd1 p28ecu

[b20acteg]

i musta had it backwards guys, sorry. id honestly prefer to stay non vtec but idk. y would u go obd2 to obd1? cant u get in trouble w dmv when u get inspected? the z6 is a twin cam 1.6 right?

[CTgoldhatch]

i musta had it backwards guys, sorry. id honestly prefer to stay non vtec but idk. y would u go obd2 to obd1? cant u get in trouble w dmv when u get inspected? the z6 is a twin cam 1.6 right?

there is no inspection but you will have to pass emission and you wont with a conversion to obd1 but you will have to convert to obd1 if you want to tune it at all you can really tune obd2 at all.

the z6 is a sohc vtec motor the ZC is the twin cam no vtec motor

[b20acteg]

gotcha. so what should i do? is there enough aftermarket to build a decent non vtec 1.6? what was the z6 in?

[honda 97]

z6 is in a 92-95 civic ex and si

[CTgoldhatch]

there is plently of aftermarket to built what you want just some is harder to get then others. the d16z6 came in the 92 to 95 civic EX/SI.

you really can do anythign you want you can build what you have now so it jsut plugs rigth back in the car.

if you go with a different motor you will need to do some more work to make it work in your car.

you can use you stock motor build it and tune it with a obd1 conversion harness and when it is emission time put you stock injectors,dizzy, and ecu back in and go threw emissions.

[meat]

obd2-1 convo doesnt require a distributor change frank.

just get a y8 longblock and a conversion harness. this isnt a big debate.

or roll the y7 and put a y8 intake mani on it and forget about it,

[sleepywonderek]

slap the y8 head on it its call a mini swap ppl i beat a few cars back in the day wit my swap

[b20acteg]

obd2-1 convo doesnt require a distributor change frank.

just get a y8 longblock and a conversion harness. this isnt a big debate.

or roll the y7 and put a y8 intake mani on it and forget about it,

so if i do the y8 swap i just need the conversion harness and ecu?

[crito07]

if u do a y8 swap u can jus use a 96-98 ex ecu .. jus slap a y8 head on ur y7 block

[b20acteg]

cool. i may try this. what do sohc vtec heads go for?

[b20acteg]

cool, i may do this. what should i expect to pay for a y8 head? ecu?