Building a new all motor

[LS/Vtec]

Yo dog, are you serious>?

LOL!!!!!!!!!!

Just FYI, cams have nothing to do with how high a motor car rev. Take your block, disassemble, and bring it to a machine shop, have them balance the entire rotating assembly and rebuilt the motor using new rings and bearings. Then put spring and retainers on your head, (not used ones), Skunk 2, Supertech, Ferrea, Buddyclubs, Blox.........get a name brand one, all those eBay branded are garbage and will fail.


Then get a good reliable street tune and you all set.

We are talking about making power tho. Not just revving to 9k to say you can like he originally wanted to do. So cams would matter. Because they will effect wether you make power or not.

[H23VTECLUDE]

cams def. have everything to do with it....if ur running ls then def. get arp rod bolts so u dont stretch the originals at high rpm and then the cams u choose determines what the engine will make power to. otherwise your valves will float at 9000rpm with stock cams. when u purchase big cams they will suggest or even say not to use stock springs with their set of cams. any questions pm me.

Valvetrain is what would prevent Valve float, not Cams. Valves will float when running at 9K with stock valvetrain, no matter what cams are used, especially with aftermaket larger lift & duration cams.

Agreed that cams are one of the large determining factors in Power Goals, & RPM range.

[LS/Vtec]

rod bolts, bearings, valvetrain, cams. and you good.

[GhettoJay]

bearings not so much or rods mostly the head. cams and valves and springs and retainers will work when trying to build power. I would never go even close to 9k because most power presents itself anywhere from 5-8k unless running 270+ degree cams when they wake up about 5500-6000k

[YatesTunes]

Actually the proper way to build an engine is to build the engine around the cam(s) being used. Ask and professional engine builder. The lift and duration of the chosen cam determines the compression of the pistons, the length and size of the intake runners and plenum, so on and so forth.

The only reason why it's so easy to customize and swap out parts on Honda's is because of VTEC and the dual cam profile. You don't have to worry about one specific RPM range because you still have the primary lobes to give you quick cylinder filling at lower RPMs. That's why nearly every set up with VTEC "killer" cams is nearly identical, because it's the best performing set up for that single RPM range. It doesn't make it as easy as throwing together a shopping list and putting parts on.

[H23VTECLUDE]

Actually the proper way to build an engine is to build the engine around the cam(s) being used. Ask and professional engine builder. The lift and duration of the chosen cam determines the compression of the pistons, the length and size of the intake runners and plenum, so on and so forth.

The only reason why it's so easy to customize and swap out parts on Honda's is because of VTEC and the dual cam profile. You don't have to worry about one specific RPM range because you still have the primary lobes to give you quick cylinder filling at lower RPMs. That's why nearly every set up with VTEC "killer" cams is nearly identical, because it's the best performing set up for that single RPM range. It doesn't make it as easy as throwing together a shopping list and putting parts on.

Well Said!

[GhettoJay]

Actually the proper way to build an engine is to build the engine around the cam(s) being used. Ask and professional engine builder. The lift and duration of the chosen cam determines the compression of the pistons, the length and size of the intake runners and plenum, so on and so forth.

The only reason why it's so easy to customize and swap out parts on Honda's is because of VTEC and the dual cam profile. You don't have to worry about one specific RPM range because you still have the primary lobes to give you quick cylinder filling at lower RPMs. That's why nearly every set up with VTEC "killer" cams is nearly identical, because it's the best performing set up for that single RPM range. It doesn't make it as easy as throwing together a shopping list and putting parts on.

Once again the man hits it on the spot. If i had a G spot i would have came already.
lol

[Jcook2125]

thanks guys

[LS/Vtec]

bearings not so much or rods mostly the head. cams and valves and springs and retainers will work when trying to build power. I would never go even close to 9k because most power presents itself anywhere from 5-8k unless running 270+ degree cams when they wake up about 5500-6000k

yea. but in order to rev that high safley you need rod bolts. And if your gonna replace the rod bolts you need to replace the bearings. So I was just stating it so this kid knows.

[Herminshs]

cams def. have everything to do with it....if ur running ls then def. get arp rod bolts so u dont stretch the originals at high rpm and then the cams u choose determines what the engine will make power to. otherwise your valves will float at 9000rpm with stock cams. when u purchase big cams they will suggest or even say not to use stock springs with their set of cams. any questions pm me.

Understand what you said, but his questions was what cams can handle 9K or better........that's what I was answering...

[panch]

Yo dog, are you serious>?

LOL!!!!!!!!!!

Just FYI, cams have nothing to do with how high a motor car rev. Take your block, disassemble, and bring it to a machine shop, have them balance the entire rotating assembly and rebuilt the motor using new rings and bearings. Then put spring and retainers on your head, (not used ones), Skunk 2, Supertech, Ferrea, Buddyclubs, Blox.........get a name brand one, all those eBay branded are garbage and will fail.


Then get a good reliable street tune and you all set.

wow hermin i can't belive that just came from you...

why would i want to rev to 11k when the motor stops making power at 9.2k??

[tucoman95]

dammmmm sorry my friends too much words yo get a ecu without a rev limiter and thats it dont waste your money and time lmk
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[LS/Vtec]

lol

[JDM_DC5]

jcook has reasons, this old, pointless, thread is now closed.